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Total War: WARHAMMER III - Hotfix 1.3.1

CA_YueyNinjaCA_YueyNinja Registered Users, Administrators, CA Staff Mods, CA Staff Posts: 37
edited July 19 in General Discussion



Hey, Total War fans!

In the recent Update 1.3 Gameplay release, we implemented a change to improve ranged units' ability to fire on their enemies when a friendly squad is positioned between them and their target—even if the ranged units seem to have a clear line of sight (LOS) on the enemy. The change involved treating two overlapping units as a single "combined" unit, which would allow the ranged soldiers to carry out their fire orders more reliably.

Unfortunately, the fix was a bit overzealous... Not only did it address the LOS issue, but it allowed ranged units to stack and fire in a way that largely negates the importance of positioning your troops—a critical mechanic to the depth of the gameplay in Battles.

We are backing out that change in today's hotfix, though we plan to revisit the original issue in the future—so watch for less extreme changes in a future update!

Reverted the following change:
  • To prevent instances where ranged units hold their fire because a friendly unit is in their line of fire, overlapping units are now considered (by the game as) part of the same unit. This should ensure that ranged units can more consistently carry out firing orders.

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  • SusaVile#9835SusaVile#9835 Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 1,430
    Thank you very much
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  • yanghaohityanghaohit Registered Users Posts: 4
  • mecanojavi99#6562mecanojavi99#6562 EspañaRegistered Users Posts: 11,223
    Kudos for the fast response.

    Honestly, I think that the next time you try to fix this issue, you should open a beta for us to test it first, this is the kind of issues that would have been avoided with one.
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  • KayosivKayosiv Senior Member Registered Users Posts: 2,849
    I love how fast this was reverted. I'm sure you'll find a less troubling solution soon but the important thing was to remove the nonsense gameplay.

    Thank you.
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  • talonn#7575talonn#7575 Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 2,868
    I can resume my 1.3 campaign now. Thank you
  • afverrall#1754afverrall#1754 Registered Users Posts: 1,305
    edited July 6
    Imagine the ratling gunner fun you could have had with this

    In all seriousness this is for the best
    Post edited by afverrall#1754 on
  • #802805#802805 Member Registered Users Posts: 646
    Thank you. While ranged units need some changes in regard to handling LOS, the radical changes in the latest patch was not the right way to do it.
  • IamNotArobot#8850IamNotArobot#8850 Registered Users Posts: 5,743

    Kudos for the fast response.

    Honestly, I think that the next time you try to fix this issue, you should open a beta for us to test it first, this is the kind of issues that would have been avoided with one.

    no.
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  • Omega_WarriorOmega_Warrior Registered Users Posts: 1,401
    Aww, I was hoping they would throw in the harmony defense buff while they were at it.
  • XxXScorpionXxX#2310XxXScorpionXxX#2310 Registered Users Posts: 6,022
    edited July 6
    It was a design decision so jarring for a real time strategy game I'd actively question the judgement of the person who made it.
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  • mewade44#6520mewade44#6520 Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 2,085
    Now I can play again. Thx
  • mecanojavi99#6562mecanojavi99#6562 EspañaRegistered Users Posts: 11,223

    Kudos for the fast response.

    Honestly, I think that the next time you try to fix this issue, you should open a beta for us to test it first, this is the kind of issues that would have been avoided with one.

    no.
    So you just want CA to release the next fix without us testing it first, potentially having another issue similar to this? What kind of logic is this?
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  • NVNMNVNM Registered Users Posts: 210
    Now please look into your design process to prevent such "overzealous" changes in the future.
  • IamNotArobot#8850IamNotArobot#8850 Registered Users Posts: 5,743

    Kudos for the fast response.

    Honestly, I think that the next time you try to fix this issue, you should open a beta for us to test it first, this is the kind of issues that would have been avoided with one.

    no.

    Kudos for the fast response.

    Honestly, I think that the next time you try to fix this issue, you should open a beta for us to test it first, this is the kind of issues that would have been avoided with one.

    no.
    So you just want CA to release the next fix without us testing it first, potentially having another issue similar to this? What kind of logic is this?
    too many cooks, let the professionals handle it and we will send feedback as we did with ranged. We are not payed to be testers. We don’t test, we play and send feedback.
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    *Exclusive DLCs for Tomb Kings, Vampire Coast, BM, CW and WE! #DLCsAreRacesToo
    *Remaster all WH1 and WH2 faction icons for WH3!
    *Ogre Kingdoms core race or death!
    *Bring back settlement conquering artworks!
    *Gnoblar Carpet for Greesus
    *Improve UI


  • XxXScorpionXxX#2310XxXScorpionXxX#2310 Registered Users Posts: 6,022
    NVNM said:

    Now please look into your design process to prevent such "overzealous" changes in the future.

    I like that they didn't try to play it off as if they were 'experimenting' or something. They just outright stepped up and took responsibility for the bad decision.

    + respect.
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  • eomat#7953eomat#7953 Junior Member Registered Users Posts: 2,897
    Still no visual fix fot the black faced Bloodchruser RoR or the hair glitch on the Heartseeker RoR.
  • Bonutz#3949Bonutz#3949 Registered Users Posts: 5,735
    Awesome. Thanks.
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  • Hippi02#5671Hippi02#5671 Registered Users Posts: 64
    I am happy that issue is getting fixed, but what about the nurgle cultist issue, where he needs to take 25% of damage, so the cooldown will begin to go down, so he can use his demon summoning ability, in campaign is not really an issue, because AI will attack no matter what but still annoying, but in a PVP match is a problem, could you not make it so he just need to take damage in general, to make the cooldown go down, like one hits and it's cooldown is now 30 to 29, and one hits more 29 to 28 instead, and it would still work with Plaguelord's Blessing on the battle maps.
  • |FTG|InverseEffect#1203|FTG|InverseEffect#1203 Registered Users Posts: 89
  • Walkabout#1505Walkabout#1505 Member Registered Users Posts: 2,980
    CA team. Perfect thank you
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  • ZyryzZyryz Registered Users Posts: 1
    That was quick, I didnt even get a chance to test the cheese! :smiley:
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